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From: Jan-Jaap van der Heijden
Subject: Turbo Vision copyrights
Date: 1 Jun 1997, 21:20:33

On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Peter Gerwinski wrote:

> According to Jan-Jaap van der Heijden:
> > 
> > This is cut from a message by Robert Hoehne to the DJGPP mailing lists.
> > Read and weep ;-(
> 
> Is this about Turbo Vision for C or for Pascal?
> 
> If it's for C, it would be a catastrophy for RHIDE!


This is the remainder of the message by Robert Hoehne:

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From: Robert Hoehne <robert.hoehne@Mathematik.TU-Chemnitz.DE>
Subject: Sources for RHIDE temporarily removed
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Hi all,

Because of some problems with Borland who has the copyright
for the Turbo Vision library sources, I had to remove
any archives from my site (and also from DJ's site and
simtelnet) which include any original code from the
Turbo Vison library. Sorry for this. Until I have not
prepared the sources to use only diffs against the original
sources from Borland they will not be available.

BTW: I do not understand it in all things, because the sources
for the TV lib are still public available, but Borland said,
that they should be downloaded only from their FTP-site
and from nowhere else (and they are there, I checked it).

OK, I append to this post also the mail, which the maintainer
of the Turbo Vison home page got. Onyone, who ist interested
can send a mail there (or directly to Borland), maybe it
helps.

Robert
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* Robert Hoehne, Fakultaet fuer Mathematik, TU-Chemnitz-Zwickau *
* Post:    Am Berg 3, D-09573 Dittmannsdorf                     *
* e-Mail:  Robert.Hoehne@Mathematik.TU-Chemnitz.DE              *
* WWW:     http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~rho                       *
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> 
> If it's for Pascal, it's still sad, but ...
> 
> According to ... hmmm ... Robert Hoehne or Eric Pesik?
> > 
> > [...]  You may also distribute your own Turbo
> > Vision patches and bug-fixes so long as it is limited to your own code.
> > However, you may not distribute the Turbo Vision source code without
> > permission from Borland.
> 
> What we can do is to patch Turbo Vision for use with GPC and to distribute
> the patch.  The `GNU patch' program works very reasonably, and 90% of those
> who intend to use TV with GPC will be Borland customers who have the TV
> source anyway.

I have attempted to compile TVision with GPC, but it lacked to much object
support. But with the recent interest in object-oriented and
delphi-features, this may change.

> > Part of the reason Borland has not released Turbo Vision into the public
> > domain is Turbo Vision remains an important and valuable feature of
> > Borland's Turbo Pascal 7.0 for DOS, which is currently available from
> > Borland.
> 
> That's a joke?
> 
> Turbo Pascal 7.0 is *dead* because it's no longer supported.
> That's one reson why we are working on GPC - a *living* compiler!
> What Borland still sells are parts of the corpse ... |~(  <shudder>
> 

A.F.A.I.K. BP7 is no longer supported, and you're "lucky" if you can find
a copy that has been sitting on a shelve some place. But this person
claims otherwise. He doesn't mention his position at Borland BTW.

> Let us hope that they won't take away RHIDE from us!  And let us work on
> something which will make the world forget that TV did ever exist!  :-)
> 

That won't happen, as far as I can see.

Greetings,

JanJaap

---
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not
necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going
to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly
overhead.  -- RFC1925.

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